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I Tried Radeon in 2024 to See How "BAD" It Truly Is…
Radeon cards seem to get a lot of hate these days, with many still preferring NVIDIA for some bizarre reason. In this video, I test a Radeon card in 2024 to see if it deserves the criticism. From driver installation and the AMD Adrenalin software to gaming performance and value comparison with Nvidia, find out if Radeon is really that bad!
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Purchase links (GPUs):
RX 7600 on Amazon - amzn.to/48ec9rY
RX 6750 XT on Amazon - amzn.to/3tAd4UH
RX 7800 XT on Amazon - amzn.to/41B55Dk
Arc A750 on Amazon - amzn.to/4aA3LVm
RTX 4060 Ti on Amazon - amzn.to/3vn4w3R
RTX 4070 on Amazon - amzn.to/3RYlHBC
RTX 4060 on Amazon - amzn.to/3tvZtOc
Purchase links (Test Setup):
Ryzen 7 7800X3D on Amazon - amzn.to/3GYcraE
ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI on Amazon - amzn.to/3RCYV15
Samsung 980 PRO 1TB - amzn.to/47udQRb
Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s - amzn.to/3GVydMb
Purchase links (My setup):
LG 34WP60C-B 34-Inch 21:9 Curved UltraWide QHD Display on Amazon - amzn.to/4az4Ps2
Anne Pro 2 on Amazon - amzn.to/3xJ9w3X
Glorious Model O Wireless on Amazon - amzn.to/3PZZ2n6
SteelSeries Alias USB Mic on Amazon - amzn.to/4az4UMm
FIFINE BM88 Low Profile Boom Arm on Amazon - amzn.to/3UipHyj
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
00:56 - Choice of GPU
1:31 - DDU Wipe
2:16 - GPU Install
3:46 - The AMD Driver Installation Experience
4:53 - AMD Adrenalin Software
10:03 - The Cyberpunk Experience using Radeon
11:28 - Enabling AFMF in Cyberpunk
12:51 - Apex Legends on Radeon
14:01 - Forza Horizon 5 on Radeon...
14:49 - Turning on AFMF in Forza...
15:14 - Is Radeon as BAD as they say?
15:54 - Detailed Performance Analysis versus NVIDIA and Intel
17:14 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion
18:08 - Outro
Affiliate notice:
By using the "TechArc" tag on all links, any Amazon referral links you use to make purchases will earn us a small percentage of the sale through the Amazon Associates program.
Purchase links (GPUs):
RX 7600 on Amazon - amzn.to/48ec9rY
RX 6750 XT on Amazon - amzn.to/3tAd4UH
RX 7800 XT on Amazon - amzn.to/41B55Dk
Arc A750 on Amazon - amzn.to/4aA3LVm
RTX 4060 Ti on Amazon - amzn.to/3vn4w3R
RTX 4070 on Amazon - amzn.to/3RYlHBC
RTX 4060 on Amazon - amzn.to/3tvZtOc
Purchase links (Test Setup):
Ryzen 7 7800X3D on Amazon - amzn.to/3GYcraE
ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI on Amazon - amzn.to/3RCYV15
Samsung 980 PRO 1TB - amzn.to/47udQRb
Trident Z5 Neo RGB Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MT/s - amzn.to/3GVydMb
Purchase links (My setup):
LG 34WP60C-B 34-Inch 21:9 Curved UltraWide QHD Display on Amazon - amzn.to/4az4Ps2
Anne Pro 2 on Amazon - amzn.to/3xJ9w3X
Glorious Model O Wireless on Amazon - amzn.to/3PZZ2n6
SteelSeries Alias USB Mic on Amazon - amzn.to/4az4UMm
FIFINE BM88 Low Profile Boom Arm on Amazon - amzn.to/3UipHyj
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
00:56 - Choice of GPU
1:31 - DDU Wipe
2:16 - GPU Install
3:46 - The AMD Driver Installation Experience
4:53 - AMD Adrenalin Software
10:03 - The Cyberpunk Experience using Radeon
11:28 - Enabling AFMF in Cyberpunk
12:51 - Apex Legends on Radeon
14:01 - Forza Horizon 5 on Radeon...
14:49 - Turning on AFMF in Forza...
15:14 - Is Radeon as BAD as they say?
15:54 - Detailed Performance Analysis versus NVIDIA and Intel
17:14 - Final Thoughts and Conclusion
18:08 - Outro
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More v ram is horrible for the gamers, but awesome for game devs. We need to stop this "the more the better" trend. The reason why games ar so horribly optimized and made is because game developers have the logic of "Blame everything on the gpu, my game isn't trash, it's just that ur gpu and cpu is trash"
Got a NVIDIA Founders Edition for $250 at Micro Center last week :)
Thank you man 🙂
150$used😤
Bro had parkinsons
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I bought it for $290, which is still much cheaper than the RTX 3060 8 GB, RTX 4060, and RTX 3016 12 GB.
Don't use title to clickbait.
Pretty good gpu, played Max Payne 3 perfectly, honestly if you play indie games and older titles before 2020, this is all you need to game. You'll get atleast 60 frames on nearly every game usually high settings. Most games these days aren't graphically intensive anyways, there's few games that will put a graphics card to the test. Depending on your monitor, you may be maxed out at 60 fps anyways so the higher framerates are meaningless. You have to make compromises for stuff like Cyberpunk lowering settings but it's still 100% playable and you'll get over 60 fps after adjusting the graphics settings. It's cheap and works, I've had it for years, haven't found a reason to upgrade.
I still use a 6700xt and still works great.
Hello my friend, I found this laptop MSI SWORD15 A12VF-1299US Prossessor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7-12650H Ram Ram 16 GB DDR4 Graphics Card (GPU) NVIDIA GeForce RTX4060 8GB Display 15.6 FHD 144Hz IPS Internal Storage 1TB SSD M.2 NVME Is it good for games? It is only $1000
Oh, I thought this was the 32gb model. I don't know anything about PC's. Can you still upgrade the ram if it's coming with 32gb stock?
Oh with an i9 & rtx4060 + 1tb SSD for 1600. Is that alright or nah?
Yes. You could put 2 32 gb ram sticks for 64
I’ve had mine for a couple months and I like it pretty well
Undervolting Acer Nitro 5 with an intel utility? My Acer Nitro 5 came with an AMD cpu... don't I need an AMD utility? I mean, if it doesn't matter ok... just seems a bit odd.
i got this same model with the same specs new for $999 with a free nitro mouse included!
Better than apex mini?
It's your first AMD GPU, and you bought their 2nd worst card(6500xt 1st). No way this wasn't unintended.
1050 ti user here I can still play medium settings in valorsnt in 300 plus fps and other low end games
bought a 3060 last year as a 3d student and a casual gamer
I have a 3090 in my pc and a 6600m in my laptop. The 6600m is a beast. It runs everything at 1080p probably slightly better than the 3090 does that 4K and AMD adrenaline is definitely better than Nvidia control panel
hold on are you saying that 6600m runs better on 1080p then rtx 3090 does at 4k, or you want to say that 6600m runs better at 4k then 3090, if later then there is something really wrong going on
@@Ciffer-1998 yeah using voice to text on my phone so might be a spelling mistake/wrong word or two somewhere, but I think that's what I said; at native, without upscaling or ray tracing, 6600m runs 1080p slightly better than the 3090 runs 4k. The 3090 rig runs max settings, AAA games at 4k, no upscaling or Ray tracing at around 60-80 fps. The 6600m will run the same settings at 1080p and get 75-100 (probably averages 85 in most demanding titles). Though, when it's available, I tend to use Ray tracing on my 3090 at 2k. An interesting comparison happened last month when my 3090 was on RMA (to Asus 😐). I got ghost of tsushima and my laptop was my only PC available. Hooked it up to my 2k monitor. I think it was doing around 60 max settings without frame generation (just to check as I was mainly using frame gen). With frame generation it was averaging probably 100 at 1440p. I got my 3090 back, and with AMD's frame generation, it was averaging about 140/150 fps at 2k for Tsushima. Without frame gen, the 3090 was doing 100. So on Ghost Of Tsushima, the 6600m was doing roughly the same fps WITH frame generation that the 3090 was doing without it, no upscaling, 1440p. Although the PS5 is AMD so the games might favor their cards. (I think it had some minor Ray tracing features available. If it is did then I used it on my 6600m as well because it was crushing that game) Here's the specs for comparison. Desktop- Strix G35 pre-built, Strix 3090, 11900kf, 32gb ddr4. Laptop- Lenovo Legion 5 (2021 model), 6600m, 5800h, 16gb ddr4. Both using nvme storage, PCIe 4 boards, dual channel memory.
@@ClappOnUpp it sounded as if you were suprised that mid range gpu runs better at 1080p then high end one at 4k
@@Ciffer-1998 I'd be more surprised if someone considered the 6600m, the lowest 6000 series mobile variant offered to be midrange. I probably say mid-range for rdna2 would be the six or seven cards from the 6600xt to 6800 non-xt. But originally you seemed to think I was stating my 6600m was beating the 3090 in 4k. You couldn't bottleneck it enough to do that without making an completely unstable system. (Yes, technically you could.. but it would be harder than making a good system)
Have you tried testing at 4k where VRAM becomes a big bottle neck?
Bro what’s about temperature in games
the Neo is the more budget friendly version of the normal Predator Helios. also I unironically chose this laptop partially for the numpad. I use the numpad as a mouse to make pixel perfect moves quite a bit and I saw a good number of other similar spected laptops without numpad, so that was ultimately my winning factor. also I'm using an old Nitro 5 which still has a gtx1650 with an i5-9300h so jumping to this with its 4070 and i7 13700hx will be quite a crazy update for me. I saw somewhere that Acer supposedly managed to make their laptops a decent bit quieter in recent times, which is almost the only thing that majorly annoyed me about the Nitro 5 (besides the poor performance now). I am still a bit bummed out that I still cant really build my first desktop pc tho now because of university. but if it serves me well I'll consider to upgrade the ram to 32gb and add another SSD. until then I'll keep storing my games on an external drive. still cant wait to finally play some of the more intensive games
rtx 3060 12gb 3 fans is 280$ in my country :(( should i buy it tho ?
NVidia is required by all the good 3D editing software and video editing software (and gaming developers). So developers are forced to use Nvidia. Gamers and crypto-guys can pick AMD or NVidia. AI and deep learning also requires NVidia. Its because NVidia has CUDA and its better for writing software and code for parallelization. AMD keeps lagging on creating good tooling and AMD also keeps creating those heat issue. Our last hope was when AMD told us they were going to make better cards in 2020, and they lied. They just don't have the good engineers and probably the circuit printer to manufacturer the cards. NVidia is deep with the USA gov't and Taiwan -- they specifically have special optical circuit printers for NVidia.
The rtx 4060 is better than the rx 7600 for just 30usd more. After that Amd beats Nvidia at all price points for value and raster performance. The 4060ti 8gb is the worst card of this generation just like how rtx 3050 8gb was for last gen. Ngreedia needs to start giving more vram (less vram = planned obsolescence) and Amdolts need to price a bit more aggressively.
Is it possible to install a new display with great color reproduction and higher brightness if I want to do the upgrade later with at least 120Hz refresh rate.
Whenever we watch this kind of review, it seems great at some point, but for example, we use some basic laptops, and we make the process of installing any Linux distro. So, at least, it would be really nice if you could tell us how difficult the process of installing any Linux distro would be, or if you don't recommend doing any installation of a Linux OS on these laptops.
What about MSI Katana 15?
Fluid motion frames doesnt provide much values anymore ever since Lossless Scaling dropped a banger of an app for Frame generation.
Thank you so much for this vide you're the best
No problem 😊
Good video but I think that the title "I Tried Radeon in 2024 to See How Bad It Truly Is…" is a bit unfair I must say. A more fair title would be "To see if its as bad as some say" or something.
The title he choose it's better for showing on UA-cam for more newer viewers
@@footballtalk4857 chose*. Learn english retard
Bro for the blurry overlay disable the radeon boost
"To see how Bad it truly is" is rather unfair. Its never been Bad. Basically ever. A more fair title would be "To see if its as bad as some say" or something.
Should I choose the RX 6800 for €400 or the 6750XT for €360?
i find nvidia drivers are worse than amd now. like why do i need to make an account to run geforce experience
Funnily enough, with the new nvidia app you don't anymore... Did take way too long though XD. And I do prefer adrenalin software for its ease of use and features for overclocking.
Thing is. I tried 6800 just last week and man it was good with a lot of games but…what really made me go back to nvidia was amds shitty dx11 shader compilation. Games like valorant is a stutter mess on amd. For some reason amd driver down clocks in valorant as it’s cpu intensive game. Also I play siege and prefer dx11 ver over Vulcan as it looks better and it stutters in that too
You could fix it by turning off navi in regedit. Google "Fix to stutters for AMD GPUS 6000 series (possibly others NAVI series)" Warning: this fix is for 6000 series only.
I never had that issue. Its entirely possible the driver was just a bit janky. Did you try downgrading to an earlier driver? Like one from a few months ago?
I play valo on rx 6600 xt and i dont have stutters, maybe that 6800 was faulty
AMD = More FPS per Dollar and more VRAM NVIDIA = Upscale and 4090 is for RAY Trac NVIDIA has most Fanboy
AMD is great, if you think that AMD is bad you are 100% paid by Nvidia. It's well known that there are no bad GPUs. Only badly priced GPUs. And Nvidia has plenty of those. Example, an RX 7600 is faster than a 4060, for $30 less.
or you just had terrible experience with them and thats the main reason why people go for the Nvidia now days then AMD, its the simple brand name
couldn't've said it better my self
15 hours ago and 15 likes, gawd dam
sheeshh. I'm building a new pc with ryzen 5 7500f and 7700XT with was 76$ cheaper than 4060ti 16gb and i cant be more happier seeing the performance here, definitely went with the better choice <3
Very nice!
If you still say AMD drivers are horrible in 2024, you either have not recently used a AMD GPU, or you work for nvidia for free. I have an xtx, 7900 gre, while my wife has a 3070. We deal with nvidia drivers issues more (though not many) then the AMD drivers. With that being said, both drivers work great.
I have a gtx 1050 and ironically i have never faced any driver issue, i don't know why newer gpus would suffer from that while the older ones won't...
Do you have a 7900 XTX or a 7900 GRE?
@@rdg665 what... because theyre new. why would old gpu have driver problems
@@rippenzong2455 because 1050 is still reciving driver updates lol, its not discontinued
So what do u recommend?? Rx 6600 or rx 7600??
6700 or with xt 😆
best price to preformace, rx 6600, rtx 3060, rx 6600xt, rtx 3060ti, rx 6700XT. thats ranked weaker to stronger, and cheaper to expensive. but dont get me wrong even the rx 6600 is still good. watch youtube videos comparing it to the others one. do it for all cards.
@@Mjdemon 6750xt same as 6700xt rn
@kianbehboodian3219, it's just an overclocked rx 6700xt . For the same price, you can get an rx 6800 (non xt) but the price drops down to the level of the rx 6750xt rarely
@@Mjdemon I've been seeing the 6950 XT go for as low as $400 on eBay sometimes.
172mm height? 😂 bro ...
it is if you are upgrading from an rx 580
Excellent a review about the new helios neo 16 2024
This laptop can handle 240hz monitor for sure for that thunderbolt port
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